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	<title>Comments on: Perverting windows with PHP</title>
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		<title>By: auroraeosrose</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-44923</link>
		<author>auroraeosrose</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-44923</guid>
		<description>Glad you like it - and it does work now, I've got the callback mechanisms in place which was the really hard part.  Now it's just a matter of filling in functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you like it - and it does work now, I&#8217;ve got the callback mechanisms in place which was the really hard part.  Now it&#8217;s just a matter of filling in functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutos</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-44906</link>
		<author>Brutos</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-44906</guid>
		<description>I tried it today and it love this project, its (still) simple and cool. I tried php-gtk and that one i really hate, it doesnt look like and feel like windows and coding for it isnt fun.

I cant wait for updates in the SVN !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried it today and it love this project, its (still) simple and cool. I tried php-gtk and that one i really hate, it doesnt look like and feel like windows and coding for it isnt fun.</p>
<p>I cant wait for updates in the SVN !</p>
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		<title>By: auroraeosrose</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42834</link>
		<author>auroraeosrose</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42834</guid>
		<description>I have an MSVC project in svn (2005 version), with all the libraries and stuff you need, so it should simply be a matter of opening the project and telling it to compile/rebuild.  However, I'm not sure if I have all the files in svn yet, my life is really nuts at the moment (I'll try to get a working demo up this weekend)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an MSVC project in svn (2005 version), with all the libraries and stuff you need, so it should simply be a matter of opening the project and telling it to compile/rebuild.  However, I&#8217;m not sure if I have all the files in svn yet, my life is really nuts at the moment (I&#8217;ll try to get a working demo up this weekend)</p>
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		<title>By: Brutos</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42683</link>
		<author>Brutos</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42683</guid>
		<description>Im too stupid to compile the source ;(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im too stupid to compile the source ;(.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend Links - Windows &#38; PHP, Vista-Style CSS Toolbar, Facebook Applications, CSS/DOM File Inputs, Browser History &#124; BluDice Blog :: PHP, MySQL, CSS, Javascript, MooTools, and Everything Else</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42589</link>
		<author>Weekend Links - Windows &#38; PHP, Vista-Style CSS Toolbar, Facebook Applications, CSS/DOM File Inputs, Browser History &#124; BluDice Blog :: PHP, MySQL, CSS, Javascript, MooTools, and Everything Else</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42589</guid>
		<description>[...] Perverting Windows With PHP Awesome article detailing how you can write Windows executables using PHP. I see this as a great idea. If you can use a web language to do functions on the desktop, do it! http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/08/perverting-windows-with-php/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Perverting Windows With PHP Awesome article detailing how you can write Windows executables using PHP. I see this as a great idea. If you can use a web language to do functions on the desktop, do it! <a href="http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/08/perverting-windows-with-php/" rel="nofollow">http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/08/perverting-windows-with-php/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: bearvarine</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42519</link>
		<author>bearvarine</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42519</guid>
		<description>Productivity simply refers to how much you can do with a given unit of time and effort.  I don't program in assembler any more, because it is not productive.  And not much fun either.  Same with C.  But I could if either were required.  Thank god they are not.  Personally, I try to be as language and platform agnostic as I can, but I know others do take sides, and there are legitimate criteria for making such choices in specific cases.

Anyway, I'm not really criticizing you here.  Perhaps my first post was meant to be more of a self-criticism.  When it comes to choosing the best tool for a task, I have seen a number of approaches, each with their own balance sheet of plusses and minuses.  In the past I have traditionally taken the "if you have a hammer in your hand, lots of things start looking like nails" approach.  I happen to be a perl lover, and I have definitely overreached in the kinds of things I have applied it to.  But I am really good at it, "productive" you might say, so it is sooo tempting to use it, even when it is basically a stupid choice.

I have seen other people over-analyze a problem and choose what they considered "the best/optimal solution" combination of arcane and obscure tools that only 1o people out of a million have ever seen.  Don't you hate those people that see 5 keywords in a text file and then suggest that we need to get Lex and Yacc or Flex and Bison to parse this strange new language?   That is just plain insane.  Yet I have seen actual managers in actual corporations go along with such arrogant, self-serving, self-aggrandizing ideas.  THAT is what makes ME crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Productivity simply refers to how much you can do with a given unit of time and effort.  I don&#8217;t program in assembler any more, because it is not productive.  And not much fun either.  Same with C.  But I could if either were required.  Thank god they are not.  Personally, I try to be as language and platform agnostic as I can, but I know others do take sides, and there are legitimate criteria for making such choices in specific cases.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m not really criticizing you here.  Perhaps my first post was meant to be more of a self-criticism.  When it comes to choosing the best tool for a task, I have seen a number of approaches, each with their own balance sheet of plusses and minuses.  In the past I have traditionally taken the &#8220;if you have a hammer in your hand, lots of things start looking like nails&#8221; approach.  I happen to be a perl lover, and I have definitely overreached in the kinds of things I have applied it to.  But I am really good at it, &#8220;productive&#8221; you might say, so it is sooo tempting to use it, even when it is basically a stupid choice.</p>
<p>I have seen other people over-analyze a problem and choose what they considered &#8220;the best/optimal solution&#8221; combination of arcane and obscure tools that only 1o people out of a million have ever seen.  Don&#8217;t you hate those people that see 5 keywords in a text file and then suggest that we need to get Lex and Yacc or Flex and Bison to parse this strange new language?   That is just plain insane.  Yet I have seen actual managers in actual corporations go along with such arrogant, self-serving, self-aggrandizing ideas.  THAT is what makes ME crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: auroraeosrose</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42499</link>
		<author>auroraeosrose</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42499</guid>
		<description>BJ: get a real browser, this is just a personal site not something I make money off of - but I'll add an IE is stupid stylesheet just for you to turn off all images

bearvarine: depends I think on why you program - to "solve an actual problem for someone" or merely to do the programming because you can - which has a lot to do with personality.  For me, this solves an itch I have, windows UI's without compiling and with a scripting language that be run on windows with three files, and a decent API to use while doing it.  Has less to do with "learning to use other tools" and more to do with "not paying for proprietary tools" - kind of an oxymoron on windows ;)  Also, the focus on "productivity" drives me nuts... some people don't program to meet some productivity goal, we do it merely because we enjoy doing it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJ: get a real browser, this is just a personal site not something I make money off of - but I&#8217;ll add an IE is stupid stylesheet just for you to turn off all images</p>
<p>bearvarine: depends I think on why you program - to &#8220;solve an actual problem for someone&#8221; or merely to do the programming because you can - which has a lot to do with personality.  For me, this solves an itch I have, windows UI&#8217;s without compiling and with a scripting language that be run on windows with three files, and a decent API to use while doing it.  Has less to do with &#8220;learning to use other tools&#8221; and more to do with &#8220;not paying for proprietary tools&#8221; - kind of an oxymoron on windows <img src='http://elizabethmariesmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also, the focus on &#8220;productivity&#8221; drives me nuts&#8230; some people don&#8217;t program to meet some productivity goal, we do it merely because we enjoy doing it!</p>
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		<title>By: bearvarine</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42449</link>
		<author>bearvarine</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42449</guid>
		<description>Its always nice when you discover you can do more with a tool than what it was originally designed to do.  That's called "pushing the envelope" and its generally a good thing, because it can lead to something even better, like "innovation".  That said, it is worth asking yourself, "is this a useful way of solving an actual problem for someone?"  Translation: did you just put together some kind of Rube Goldberg Mousetrap Contraption that can be done far more simply and easily with another tool?  If so, then you must ask yourself:  "Why am I so resistant to learning how to use other tools that make what I want to do easier?"  Hey, it happens to me all the time, its human nature.  If you are good at speaking Swahili and it served you well in the past, who wants to start over learning Englis from the ground up?  So much lost productivity...   Well, that how the programming game is played, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its always nice when you discover you can do more with a tool than what it was originally designed to do.  That&#8217;s called &#8220;pushing the envelope&#8221; and its generally a good thing, because it can lead to something even better, like &#8220;innovation&#8221;.  That said, it is worth asking yourself, &#8220;is this a useful way of solving an actual problem for someone?&#8221;  Translation: did you just put together some kind of Rube Goldberg Mousetrap Contraption that can be done far more simply and easily with another tool?  If so, then you must ask yourself:  &#8220;Why am I so resistant to learning how to use other tools that make what I want to do easier?&#8221;  Hey, it happens to me all the time, its human nature.  If you are good at speaking Swahili and it served you well in the past, who wants to start over learning Englis from the ground up?  So much lost productivity&#8230;   Well, that how the programming game is played, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: BJ Upton</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42432</link>
		<author>BJ Upton</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42432</guid>
		<description>You might want to work on your page layout.

This page is unreadable in IE6, you know that niche browser?

The flowers cover sections of the text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to work on your page layout.</p>
<p>This page is unreadable in IE6, you know that niche browser?</p>
<p>The flowers cover sections of the text.</p>
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		<title>By: developercast.com &#187; Elizabeth Smith&#8217;s Blog: Perverting windows with PHP</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42179</link>
		<author>developercast.com &#187; Elizabeth Smith&#8217;s Blog: Perverting windows with PHP</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2007/09/perverting-windows-with-php/#comment-42179</guid>
		<description>[...] a new post, Elizabeth Smith talks about &#8220;perverting Windows&#8221; to work with desktop PHP applications [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a new post, Elizabeth Smith talks about &#8220;perverting Windows&#8221; to work with desktop PHP applications [&#8230;]</p>
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