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	<title>Comments on: Writer is shaping up</title>
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	<description>Night is darkest just before the dawn...</description>
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		<title>By: auroraeosrose</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2006/10/writer-is-shaping-up/#comment-12235</link>
		<author>auroraeosrose</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah - but VB6 will never run on Linux.  Or a mac... Now you're getting into the whole language debate :)  I like php because it's easy to use, has extensions for everything, and I'm one of those who prefers the C style syntax.  It's what I'm used to, it doesn't make my eyes bleed when I try to read it.  I like Gtk+ because it's cross platform - like PHP if you can get it to compile it'll run.  And it does have everything I want - in the C version.rnrnI prefer scripting languages for my projects because support is simplified when you don't have to worry about a dozen different platforms and architectures when compiling.  The problem right now is that PHP-GTK2 is a wrapper around GTK+ and it's not done - heck it's not even a beta yet!  If I wanted a finished wrapper I could look at python for a fantastic complete version of the same thing - wrapping a C library with bindings from another language - with the strengths of the python language.  I simply cannot stand python syntax. It's not a "I hate python for some existential reason" - I just don't like the syntax, which may seem silly to some people but it's like prefering pink to blue - you're never going to convince me I like blue better :)  Ruby makes me shudder the same way, and that's why I like C# - similiar way of doing things and braces, dammit.rnrnPeople can argue until they're blue in the face about how X language would be a better choice, but for me PHP is a "C for dummies" and PHP-GTK2 works for what I want :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah - but VB6 will never run on Linux.  Or a mac&#8230; Now you&#8217;re getting into the whole language debate <img src='http://elizabethmariesmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I like php because it&#8217;s easy to use, has extensions for everything, and I&#8217;m one of those who prefers the C style syntax.  It&#8217;s what I&#8217;m used to, it doesn&#8217;t make my eyes bleed when I try to read it.  I like Gtk+ because it&#8217;s cross platform - like PHP if you can get it to compile it&#8217;ll run.  And it does have everything I want - in the C version.rnrnI prefer scripting languages for my projects because support is simplified when you don&#8217;t have to worry about a dozen different platforms and architectures when compiling.  The problem right now is that PHP-GTK2 is a wrapper around GTK+ and it&#8217;s not done - heck it&#8217;s not even a beta yet!  If I wanted a finished wrapper I could look at python for a fantastic complete version of the same thing - wrapping a C library with bindings from another language - with the strengths of the python language.  I simply cannot stand python syntax. It&#8217;s not a &#8220;I hate python for some existential reason&#8221; - I just don&#8217;t like the syntax, which may seem silly to some people but it&#8217;s like prefering pink to blue - you&#8217;re never going to convince me I like blue better <img src='http://elizabethmariesmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ruby makes me shudder the same way, and that&#8217;s why I like C# - similiar way of doing things and braces, dammit.rnrnPeople can argue until they&#8217;re blue in the face about how X language would be a better choice, but for me PHP is a &#8220;C for dummies&#8221; and PHP-GTK2 works for what I want <img src='http://elizabethmariesmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hal Davey</title>
		<link>http://elizabethmariesmith.com/2006/10/writer-is-shaping-up/#comment-12118</link>
		<author>Hal Davey</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More thoughts from Texas. I have been wanting to build a B&#38;B management package for several years now - but the lack of a really good stand-alone desktop application package has stopped me. I still am not sure about PHP_GTK.  For example a B&#38;B Management package needs to be stand-alone because I would not want to be responsible for someone's lost reservations info or money matters, due to some kind of web problem. It is better for some users to have the data and program sitting on their hot little PC. 10 years ago I did several nice packages with VB6, and then dropped it when M$ tried to force me to the .NET crap. Then I tried Java, PHP, and so on, but they are all server-side stuff not suited to desktop apps. The really sad thing is that you can easily do in VB6 what you still cannot do in most of the newer languages. User GUI is a piece of cake, but the code behind it can get really tangled if you are not careful. And it was, until recently tied to the dreadful Acess DB. VB6 is undergoing a rebirth - there are several wrappers and so forth that will allow VB6 to work with SQLite, and printed output is a snap using Crystal Reports. It can be hooked to the web easily - in short it will already do most of what you are waiting for PHP-GTK to get around to. M$ recently woke up - albeit 10 years late - and has now reinstated support for VB6.rnEnough already.rnCheers,rnHal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More thoughts from Texas. I have been wanting to build a B&amp;B management package for several years now - but the lack of a really good stand-alone desktop application package has stopped me. I still am not sure about PHP_GTK.  For example a B&amp;B Management package needs to be stand-alone because I would not want to be responsible for someone&#8217;s lost reservations info or money matters, due to some kind of web problem. It is better for some users to have the data and program sitting on their hot little PC. 10 years ago I did several nice packages with VB6, and then dropped it when M$ tried to force me to the .NET crap. Then I tried Java, PHP, and so on, but they are all server-side stuff not suited to desktop apps. The really sad thing is that you can easily do in VB6 what you still cannot do in most of the newer languages. User GUI is a piece of cake, but the code behind it can get really tangled if you are not careful. And it was, until recently tied to the dreadful Acess DB. VB6 is undergoing a rebirth - there are several wrappers and so forth that will allow VB6 to work with SQLite, and printed output is a snap using Crystal Reports. It can be hooked to the web easily - in short it will already do most of what you are waiting for PHP-GTK to get around to. M$ recently woke up - albeit 10 years late - and has now reinstated support for VB6.rnEnough already.rnCheers,rnHal</p>
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